Florida and Michigan Voting: It Is The Thought That Counts

The Democrats are trying to resolve one of the biggest denials of voting rights in our country's history.  Over two million votes offered during the Florida and Michigan primaries are awaiting their destination.  The votes might go to their intended recipient or they might be thrown away.

The DNC voting rules are frequently revised and they have been revised this election season, but this essay is regarding the voters themselves.  A vote is a gift to a candidate.  Voting in an election is like going to the post office and mailing a gift package. When I do that I write the name of the person I'm giving the gift to on the box and I trust that the post office will deliver it to the lucky recipient. Likewise, when people go to vote they trust that their vote will be delivered to the person who they gave it to.

Another way that voting is like giving someone a gift is that before I buy I gift I think about it to make sure I buy an appropriate gift to make the recipient happy because I care about that person and that's why I'm giving them a gift. Hence why people say, "It is the thought that counts."  Likewise, before people vote they think about who to vote for. For example, Democratic voters in Florida and Michigan are mature adults who carefully thought about who to vote for. They had a lot of time to learn about the candidates because the candidates had been campaigning for months.  The two top candidates, Clinton and Obama, had been campaigning for one year prior to the Florida and Michigan elections, so for a year voters had been reading about these two candidates, watching them deliver speeches on TV, discussing the candidates with friends at work, home, and on the Internet.  So after one whole year of constantly hearing about the candidates in the media, the voters used all that information to decide who to give their gift vote to.  So "It is the thought that counts," in the sense that the voters thought carefully about who to vote for and when they offer their vote to a specific candidate their thought will count, it will be counted with all the other votes.  And unlike a typical birthday or holiday gift that includes the thought and the physical gift, a vote gift is 100% thought. The thought is directed to the candidate the voter cares about and it is precious.

Thus, when the DNC Rules & Bylaws Committee meets on May 31st to distribute vote gifts they should distribute the votes to their intended recipient.  For example, the hundreds of thousands of vote gifts Floridians sent to Clinton should of course be given to Clinton.  That is fair.  If I sent a wreath by mail as a gift to my friend then it wouldn't be ethical if the postal clerk took the wreath and gave it to someone else. The wreath was meant for my friend.  Likewise, Democratic primary voters intended their votes to go to their preferred candidate and this preference is extremely important and should be honored.  Each vote represents a thought, the thought that "This person is the best candidate and I'm offering my vote to help them win," thus it would be very unethical to go against a voter's intent and give their vote to someone who they did not intend it to be given to. A gift vote should be honored.



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Re: Florida and Michigan Voting: It Is The Thought (none / 0)

Total BS. I can't believe anyone is still saying this.


by Becky G on Thu May 29, 2008 at 10:53:48 AM EST

Re: Florida and Michigan Voting: It Is The Thought (none / 0)

I'm glad you agree that the Clinton campaign's attempt to get half the uncommitted voters in MI would be immoral.


by interestedbystander on Thu May 29, 2008 at 10:53:52 AM EST

Re: Florida and Michigan Voting: It Is The Thought (none / 0)

Going along with this analogy...

You're fine with a post office claiming that the mailings are for demonstration only and telling people that in advance, thus keeping them from showing up to send "gifts"...

..and then changing its mind after its closed that day, thereby ensuring that those people who didn't show up never get a chance to send their "gift"?

Seems perfectly fair. Only voters who can see into the future and have no regards for rules and sanctions should be rewarded? That makes perfect sense.


by Reeves on Thu May 29, 2008 at 10:57:08 AM EST

Analogy fails (none / 0)

Those votes were not intended to elect delegates.  This meeting is not about distributing votes.  It is about distributing delegates.


by JJE on Thu May 29, 2008 at 11:29:59 AM EST

BS (none / 0)

Michigan voters KNEW that the primary would not count.  They KNEW that even though they may support Obama or Edwards, their names would not be on the ballot, because everyone agreed the primary would not count.  You make it sound as if the voters went to the primaries under the impression that they were voting normallly and supporting whoever they wished to support.  That was not the case and you know it.

Beside, there was no "denial of voting rights."  Primaries are not elections.  Political parties are private organizations which can poll people any way they want.  They can decide who they want to ask and how they want to ask them about THEIR potential presidential nominee.  No elections or voting rights come into play.  This is why the lawsuits over the matter are laughed out of court.


by rf7777 on Thu May 29, 2008 at 11:31:42 AM EST

Re: Florida and Michigan Voting: It Is The Thought (2.00 / 1)

It's about principles.  And principles trumped rules.

If rules are rules, Rosa Park should have given up her seat to the white man.

If rules are rules, other states that changed their primary date must have the same punishment not explained away with exception.

If rules are rules, the laws of the country overrides the rules of the party.  And according to the law, the state has the authority to set the primary date, not the party.

If rules are rules, Howard Dean shouldn't be able to introduce new rules into the book to help strengthen his interpretation.


by JoeySky18 on Thu May 29, 2008 at 11:33:49 AM EST

Re: Florida and Michigan Voting: It Is The Thought (none / 0)

Often times rules are made to enforce principles. This rule was made to ensure that FL & MI don't hog the campaign spotlight from the 4 smaller states.

And comparing this to Rosa Parks is insulting.


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by Cochrane on Thu May 29, 2008 at 07:30:28 PM EST
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Re: Florida and Michigan Voting: It Is The Thought (2.00 / 2)

The Democrats are trying to resolve one of the biggest denials of voting rights in our country's history.

Starting off with insane hyperbole certainly isn't helping your case.  Remember when slaves counted as 3/5?  When women couldn't vote at all?  When blacks were intimidated and poll-tested out of their votes?
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by guazatragicness on Thu May 29, 2008 at 11:36:43 AM EST

You know what pisses me off? (none / 0)

Our local elementary school had an election.  Obama won it over Clinton 194-6 with five voters going to Elmo.  Why don't they get delegates.  COUNT THEIR VOTES!


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by thezzyzx on Thu May 29, 2008 at 11:55:28 AM EST

Re: Florida and Michigan Voting: It Is The Thought (2.00 / 1)

You know, you're right: It is the thought that counts.

Many voters in Michigan and Florida thought the elections there wouldn't count for anything.  The reason they thought that is because Hillary Clinton, the other candidates, and the Democratic National Committee said pretty explicitly that the elections in Florida and Michigan wouldn't count for anything.  So they stayed home - after all, why go to the polling place if it's just an election for show?

Yet now, Hillary Clinton, her campaign, and her supporters and advocates want to make her, the other candidates, and the DNC into liars, and make those people doubly disenfranchised.  Their first disenfranchisement took place when their state legislatures, with the cooperation of the state Democratic Party apparatuses, decided to move the election date up in clear violation of the DNC's rules.  Their second would be if the elections they didn't participate in, in a good faith understanding from the candidates and the DNC that the elections wouldn't count, all of a sudden counted, and they were not given the chance to express their preference at the polling places.

People have a right to trust that their candidates and their party are telling the truth about the efficacy of their elections.  Why do you want to break that trust?


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by mistersite on Thu May 29, 2008 at 11:56:07 AM EST

Re: Florida and Michigan Voting: It Is The Thought (none / 0)

I'm glad that this issue is being resolved.


by grlpatriot on Thu May 29, 2008 at 05:26:50 PM EST


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