Women: A Long History Of Struggle Towards Political Equality

"I am sure that every one of my colleagues - Democrat, Republican, and Independent - agrees with that statement. That in the voting booth, every one is equal." ~ Barbara Boxer, U.S. Senator from CA

When the Rules and Bylaws Committee meets tomorrow they should discuss the discrepancy between how states were treated which favored one or another candidate in the polls. It is curious that the two states where Clinton was rated highest in the polls, Florida and Michigan, were punished but I recall that Obama polled high in the three states (up until the time near the election in New Hampshire) that received a waiver.  It is odd that states that heavily favored Clinton were punished while states that had favored her competitor were given waivers even though all five states broke Rule 11.A.  There can be no fair solution unless all five states are treated the same.  The integrity of the Rules and Bylaws decision tomorrow will be based on whether all five states are treated the same.

Hillary Clinton is the first woman candidate with a good chance of becoming president.  For centuries American women have struggled to free ourselves from subjugation.  We have achieved some success but there is a long way to go.  For example, most U.S. slaves are women and girls. Females have much less political, economic and social power than males. It is disturbing that of the five states that broke the DNC schedule rule the two states that favored the only woman candidate were punished twice as severely as standard yet the three states that favored a male candidate were given a waiver. I'm not stating that sexism is the only reason this happened but it is reasonable to assume sexism could have played a part in the DNC's decision to favor a male candidate over a female candidate because there is no logical reason why the two states that favored a woman were punished in an extreme and unusual manner while the states that had favored the male candidate were given a waiver. And whether there was conscious sexism or not, the result was that a woman's historic campaign that helped women's equality was treated unfairly and harmed in a way that benefited her male competitor. Thus, Clinton's efforts to ensure voting rights are not just for the rights of Florida and Michigan to be treated as equal to other states, but also for women to be treated as equal to men.

U.S. women have fought for the right to vote since the 18th century but the large national movement to get the vote began in 1848 during the First Women's Rights convention in New York (where Clinton is Senator). For the next 72 years women who tried to get equal rights for women to vote were harassed, jailed and subjected to extreme physical abuse. Then in 1920 justice became law. The 19th Amendment, called the Susan B. Anthony Amendment, guaranteed women the vote in every state.

Sources:

CountTheVotesCast believes that since "...we are a nation of fifty states, not forty-eight" that Florida and Michigan voters should have the right to vote for the Democratic nominee for president of the United States.  They have created a petition to the DNC: http://www.countthevotescast.org/letter. php.

Florida and Michigan are among six states that moved their primary day, thus the only fair solution would be that all the states in the same situation should be treated the same: http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/5/28/1338 36/190.  

Video about women's long struggle to get the right to vote-Bread and Roses: Women's Suffrage
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYIHPj-3h g0

video: sexism against women and HRC's presidential bid:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ke64670Gk Z8

video: April 11th demonstration to end media bias against HRC:



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Give me a break (2.00 / 5)

Florida and Michigan were punished long before anyone knew how they'd poll.

The waivered states were decided long before anyone had a clue that Obama would be more than a token candidate.

This isn't about women's rights, it's about rules and bylaws.


The pebbles have voted and the avalanche has begun.

President-Elect "That One"

by Dracomicron on Fri May 30, 2008 at 12:28:08 PM EST

Re: Women: A Long History Of Struggle Towards Poli (2.00 / 4)

It is odd that states that heavily favored Clinton were punished while states that had favored her competitor were given waivers even though all six states broke the same rule.

No, it really isn't odd at all.  The states that received waivers were approved by the DNC to hold their elections before February 5.  Florida and Michigan were not approved by the DNC to hold elections before February 5.

Harold Ickes - from Clinton's inner circle - voted in favor of stripping MI and FL's delegates.  Are you accusing him of being in on a secret plot to help Barack Obama?


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by mistersite on Fri May 30, 2008 at 12:29:14 PM EST

You must be kidding. You're acting like the Party (2.00 / 4)

was against Clinton? She had a 100 delegate head start because of the assumption that she'd be the nominee.

I'd give this a McCain Blogger Brigade Capt. rating though because it's sneakier and more divisive than the others.


John McCain on social security.
by heresjohnny on Fri May 30, 2008 at 12:29:44 PM EST

Re: Women: A Long History Of Struggle Towards Poli (2.00 / 4)

Yeah, those blacks have just had it given to them...


by IowaMike on Fri May 30, 2008 at 12:30:56 PM EST

Wow.... (2.00 / 3)

I honestly can't believe I read this.  What planet is the diarist thinks s/he's from?


United we stand, divided we fall.
by mefeck on Fri May 30, 2008 at 12:32:21 PM EST

Once again (2.00 / 4)

Clinton had a near majority of 12 people on the committee that stripped Florida of their votes.

Of the committee's 30 members, a near-majority of 12 were Clinton supporters. All of them--most notably strategist Harold Ickes--voted for Florida's full disenfranchisement. (The only dissenting vote was cast by a Tallahassee, Fla., city commissioner who supported Obama.) -- Slate

Your implication that the DNC and the rules committee somehow purposefully rigged the game against Clinton is thus provably false.

I would appreciate it if Clinton's supporters would stop lying about it.


Finding God in a Dog
by maxomai on Fri May 30, 2008 at 12:37:27 PM EST

Re: Women: A Long History Of Struggle Towards Poli (2.00 / 3)

I thought I'd post something about how these two states broke the rules while the others you listed did not, or that every state was polling strongly for Hillary when they decided to strip the delegates, but everyone has already beat me to it.

I think you need a new line of argument for why Hillary should/will win the nomination, because this one is really stale and beaten.


John McCain is surprisingly bad for this country
by minnesotaryan on Fri May 30, 2008 at 12:38:36 PM EST

Hmm? (1.00 / 0)

Polling strong for Hillary?

Obama had a huge lead last summer.

Hillary worked hard, campaigned positively and cut into that lead.

And they're keeping Florida and Michigan from her which she won.


by HillsMyGirl on Fri May 30, 2008 at 01:19:12 PM EST
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Can the admins please ban this parody troll? nt (2.00 / 0)


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by mistersite on Fri May 30, 2008 at 01:19:52 PM EST
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Re:??? (2.00 / 1)

I am a strong HIllary supporter.

Go Hillary.

We are all Democrats.  We should be nice to each other.

How are you doing today?

I hope you have a nice weekend.


by HillsMyGirl on Fri May 30, 2008 at 01:21:55 PM EST
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Re:??? (2.00 / 1)

Please provide support for the statement about polling information favoring Obama over Hillary in Summer 2007.  I know I've spent too much time on other sites, but I have never, ever seen that. I am prepared to be convinced by proof but I gotta see that proof. Documentation, please.


by Christy1947 on Fri May 30, 2008 at 01:44:43 PM EST
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Re:??? (none / 0)

Relax - it's a parody troll.  Personally I find it's posts quite  amusing, but I gather others are less amused.


by interestedbystander on Fri May 30, 2008 at 02:16:08 PM EST
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Re:??? (none / 0)

Back in the summer of 2007 Obama had 48% in the polls and Edwards had 41% in the polls and Hillary was in 3rd place with 5%.  

It's in the polls, I saw.

Now look at how wonderful a campaign Hillary has run, to go from 5% back in August of 2007 to being within a sliver of getting the nomination.  Many thanks to all the wonderful Hillary bloggers who have helped Hillary rise to this level.


by HillsMyGirl on Fri May 30, 2008 at 03:56:22 PM EST
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Its only because of sexism... (2.00 / 2)

Sexism is worse than racism which is proved by the fact that Obama is winning the dem nomination.

And since sexism is worse, Obama will lose  in the ....er.....um...

I mean because of "hard working Americans in APPALACHHIA, Obama will win the nom...er...um....

What was my point?


by IowaMike on Fri May 30, 2008 at 12:46:33 PM EST

Whaa? (2.00 / 2)

Seriously:
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And I also have to ask:
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by Mumphrey on Fri May 30, 2008 at 01:07:01 PM EST

It's all Sexism (1.00 / 0)

Hillary has 300 electoral votes
Obama has 217.

And now they want to deny Hillary by counting the votes in the 217 states as if they are more than the significant states.

It's quite misogynistic.


by HillsMyGirl on Fri May 30, 2008 at 01:10:39 PM EST

I'll pretend you AREN'T a parody troll... (2.00 / 1)

...in order to point out the following:

Hillary has zero electoral votes.
Obama has zero electoral votes.
McCain has zero electoral votes.

Nobody will have any electoral votes until November.


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by mistersite on Fri May 30, 2008 at 01:19:17 PM EST
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Re: I'll pretend you AREN'T a parody troll... (2.00 / 1)

You are a great person.

You are wonderful.

I hope you are having a great day.

The weather outside is beautiful.


by HillsMyGirl on Fri May 30, 2008 at 01:22:47 PM EST
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Re: Women: A Long History Of Struggle Towards Poli (2.00 / 0)

So, in other words, you see a vast, left wing conspiracy?

Engaging in conspiracy theory does NOT help achieve political equality.


No way. No how. No McCain.
by freedom78 on Fri May 30, 2008 at 01:50:52 PM EST

Paula Jones was a woman too (2.00 / 1)

I am an old white broad and a life long feminist, I will not vote for Hillary.  Paula Jones was a woman too and I am more like Paula Jones.  I have had my run in's with Slick Willie at work.  I have known the wives who look the other way while I am fired or denied promotion.  They sit comfortable while I struggle to feed my kids on unemployment compensation.  During the Clinton Presidency, Bill used women and Hill cleaned up his mess.  Real feminists were sickened.
No I will not be voting for Hillary Clinton. Hillary is failing because of the person she is, not the woman she is.
by MsElaineyUs on Fri May 30, 2008 at 02:09:04 PM EST

Re: Paula Jones was a woman too (2.00 / 2)

"Real feminists were sickened."  Gee, I'm a real feminist.  Nearly every female friend I have is a real, true, deeply committed feminist.  I can't think of one of us who didn't agree at the time that the Clintons' marriage was their business, not ours.  For women who had consensual sexual relations with Bill Clinton, hey, they were adults.  They wanted to have sex with a married man?  I just don't even want to know about it.  I wouldn't have stayed married to Bill, but that's me.  I don't hold other women's choices against them.  


by Montague on Fri May 30, 2008 at 03:05:54 PM EST
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Re: Paula Jones was a woman too (none / 0)

Unless of course your boss is the Govenor and you are taken to a motel room by state police.  Then it's not a "private affair" is it?  But we held our noses and voted for them anyway.  


by MsElaineyUs on Fri May 30, 2008 at 03:31:30 PM EST
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Re: Paula Jones was a woman too (2.00 / 2)

Not proven.  Look, Bill is a philanderer. Sex, schmex, whatever. But a lot of people have tried to get something out of it. We have a very litigious society.  Anita Hill didn't try to get money, so I believe her when she says that Clarence Thomas harrassed her sexually.  Paula Jones, IMO, was after some cash.  She admitted using some of it for a rhinoplasty. I guess I'll get TR'd for mentioning that.

I might add that my Rethug brother (well-educated attorney) pretended to be feminist briefly by defending Paula Jones. He did it only because it made a convenient anti-Clinton talking point, because normally, my brother likes to make fun of what he calls trailer trash.  Only his hatred of Clinton could make him suddenly seem to care about a woman like Paula Jones.  Basically, he saved his vitriol for Anita Hill.


by Montague on Fri May 30, 2008 at 03:38:08 PM EST
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Re: Paula Jones was a woman too (none / 0)

Stop looking down your nose at me.  I am trailer trash.  When the Wellesley upper crust Hillary needed support - she started drinking shots and pretending to be on of us "trailer trash" girls.  Don't think we forgot how she made fun of us.  

Shouldn't a "women's movement" be for all women?  The very fact that you use the term "trailer trash" says a lot about you.  Who do you think suffers the most from domestic violence, sexual harassment and wage disparity?  And honey, don't have time to join your club but we know how to pull a lever.


by MsElaineyUs on Fri May 30, 2008 at 04:54:04 PM EST
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Equality means (none / 0)

Accepting losing as part of the game, being fair to your competition be it male or female or cross gender and being gracious with your loss. In life, you win some, you lose some and some things are a draw.  Women will not be considered equal until we accept this fact. Hillary accepted the rules of the DNC game until she started losing.  The rules were okay when they favored her position.  Her loss is not based on gender it's based on a flawed campaign strategy.  


by markieparkie on Fri May 30, 2008 at 03:28:24 PM EST

Equality means accepting your inequality (none / 0)

Get that, ladies?  The rules are the rules and if it means women are under-represented in positions of power, well, get used to it.

Let's get rid of Title IX, too.

***A


by adrienne4dean on Fri May 30, 2008 at 04:47:00 PM EST


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