McCain won't apologize to Obama

Well folks that says it John McCain is willing to go as low as possible to win this election. He won't back down from his remarks on Barack Obama willing to lose the war.

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-trail /2008/07/24/mccain_wont_back_down_on_oba ma.html

McCain was unapologetic today when asked about Obama's comments.

"I think it's very clear that I said at the most difficult times that I would rather lose a political campaign than lose a war and that's very clear and a lot of people said that it might do (in) my candidacy for president of the United States or the nomination of my party,'' McCain said, referring to his support at the "surge" of troops to Iraq.

Grandpa McCain proves how stubborn and out of touch he is.

He added: "The point is that Senator Obama doesn't have an understanding of what was at stake with the surge, what is at stake in the future for the security of this nation. I stand by my comments and I think the record authenticates it."

So there you have it people McCain's record is open to discussion.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/pol itics/special/clinton/stories/react08219 8.htm
1998

Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) stressed the importance of a strong U.S. role in foreign affairs, and criticized the administration for ignoring problems other than bin Laden, including Iraq dragging its feet on arms inspections, "North Korea building nuclear weapons," a stalled Mideast peace process, and "thousands of people being ethnically cleansed in Kosovo.

"This administration for the last seven months has neglected compelling national security threats besides this," said McCain, a member of the Armed Services Committee. "I cannot say that they've been neglected because of Monica Lewinsky, but I can say unequivocally that they have been neglected."

So there is one record. John McCain was for War with Iraq before Bush was in office. John McCain was just looking for a excuse to go to war. No reality was going to change McCain view of the war.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/18/magazi ne/18mccain-t.html?_r=1&pagewanted=4 &oref=slogin

After the terrorist attacks of 2001 and the sudden elevation of Al Qaeda as a defining national security threat, McCain never had any doubt that Iraq, with its supposed capability to unleash or share weapons of mass destruction, posed an existential threat to the United States. Reading his statements from the time, there is no indication that he ever judged the invasion of Iraq by the standard he had used earlier in his career -- whether it had the potential to become another Vietnam. Instead, as American troops swarmed Baghdad, McCain repeatedly compared Hussein to Adolf Hitler and predicted that the occupation of Iraq would be remembered in much the same way that history celebrated the liberation and rebuilding of Europe and Japan.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/librar y/news/iraq/1998/980929-in2.htm

  Congress, on a bi-partisan basis, is fed up with the Clinton administration's do-nothing policy on Iraq.   Today, the "Iraq Liberation Act of 1998" was introduced into the Senate and House.  Those introducing the bill in the Senate were Sen. Majority Leader, Trent Lott, [R, Miss], Sen. Bob Kerrey, [D. Ne], Sen. John McCain [R, Az], Sen. Joseph Lieberman [D Conn] and Sen. Jon Kyl [R, Az].  Those introducing the bill in the House were Rep. Benjamin Gilman [R, NY] and Rep. Christopher Cox [R, Ca]
I.  S.2525, "IRAQ LIBERATION ACT OF 1998"

John McCain wanted war folks. How many people forgot about the Iraq Liberation Act? What about McCain's role with Chalabi?

http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/09/chal abi-mccain/

A new book by Aram Roston reveals that Chalabi supported John McCain (R-AZ) for president in 2000, believing that the senator would be the most receptive to his agenda. Muckraked reports:

One of his key backers has been John McCain, who was one of the first patrons of Chalabi's grand-sounding International Committee for a Free Iraq when it was founded in 1991. McCain was Chalabi's favored candidate in the 2000 election since Chalabi knew that he would be able to free up the $97 million in military aid plus millions pushed through in Congress and earmarked for Chalabi's exile group, the Iraqi National Congress, but held up by the Clinton State Department.


Indeed, McCain was a Chalabi backer long before President Bush took power. In 1997, he tried to pressure the Clinton administration into setting up an Iraqi government in exile. Despite opposition from the Pentagon and the State Department, the next fall, McCain co-sponsored the Iraq Liberation Act, committing the United States to overthrowing Saddam and funding opposition groups. According to a 2006 article by John Judis:

McCain welcomed Ahmed Chalabi, leader of the Iraqi National Congress (INC), to Washington and pressured the administration to give him money. When General Anthony Zinni cast doubt upon the effectiveness of the Iraqi opposition, McCain rebuked him at a hearing of the Senate Armed Services Committee.

Then we have this.
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/McCain_I_w ould_have_started_Iraq_0106.html


MR. RUSSERT: But, Senator, it's an important question -- President Bush has said, "Even if I knew he did not have biological, chemical, or a nuclear program, I still would go into Iraq to topple Saddam Hussein." Would you have?

SEN. McCAIN: Yes, but the point is, that if we had done it right, it's been well chronicled in many books, you and I wouldn't even be discussing that now-- the mishandling after the war.

Look, I met with a high-ranking former al Qaeda operative in Iraq recently, and I asked him, "How did you succeed?" He said, "The lawlessness after the initial invasion and Abu Ghraib," and so they were able to recruit people because of the disorder and the mishandling. So you would not be asking me if it had been mishandled. You would have said because we succeeded and established the stable Iraq, you'd have said, "Aren't you glad we went in because Saddam Hussein, one of the most brutal, most terrible dictators in history who fought in several wars, used weapons of mass destruction, invaded this neighbor, is now gone from the world scene." That's what you'd be saying.

MR. RUSSERT: I think there would be a debate amongst the American people if we were told he did not have biological, chemical, or nuclear weapons.

SEN. McCAIN: If frogs had wings -- look, Tim, we can talk about lots of hypotheticals. Would we have stopped Saddam Hussein from going into Kuwait back in '91 when he went in? Would we have said that the Chinese aren't going to cross -- if we had known that the Chinese were going to cross the Yalu in the Korean War, would we have done it differently?

So I question McCain's judgement on wanting war no matter what the facts were. Which judgement is worse?



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Re: McCain won't apologize to Obama (2.00 / 2)

Here ya go....
McCain on Obama

"I would rather speak at a rally or a political gathering any place outside of the country after I am president of the United States," McCain told O'Donnell. "But that's a judgment that Sen. Obama and the American people will make."

But before his trip to Latin America Last month

"Going to Latin America in the midst of a presidential campaign, he said, speaks less to his role as a senator than to what he's hoping to achieve if elected this fall. "It's more my ability to govern as president," he said, "my ability to lead as president, to keep up with these major issues."

Whole article
http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-trail /2008/06/30/mccain_foreshadows_latin_ame ri.html?sid=ST2008070103066&pos=list


"harlequin speech of suicide, demanding instantaneous lobotomy"
by nogo postal on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 10:25:20 PM EST

Re: McCain won't apologize to Obama (none / 0)

He went to Canada to give a speech after he went to Latin America.


"The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good." Samuel Johnson
by MS01 Indie on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 11:38:38 PM EST
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Re: McCain won't apologize to Obama (2.00 / 1)

I got called out by a McCain apologist in another diary for calling McCain a warmonger. What you have here isn't all of it either. There is his attitude towards Iran and Russia that must be taken into account.


"The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good." Samuel Johnson
by MS01 Indie on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 11:40:06 PM EST

I highly suggest people look at the past history (2.00 / 1)

McCain wants to stand by his record so lets all dig it up to just show what a warmonger McCain is. He wanted this war and did everything he could to have it. The history is out there it just takes some digging to recover way back.


by AHiddenSaint on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 11:49:24 PM EST
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McSmear: " I would rather lose..." (2.00 / 1)

You will. yoooou will.

by Beren on Fri Jul 25, 2008 at 01:14:53 AM EST

Re: McCain won't apologize to Obama (none / 0)

McCain's sour grapes stance this week on Obama's trip hasn't done him any good. Republican friends of mine most of whom will still vote for him because they are Republicans have said as much. He looked very old and very bitter about the whole thing and acted like a school kid I heard one of them say. Another who I actually think might go Obama said he's done, there no way he's going to be president against this guy.    


by ottovbvs on Fri Jul 25, 2008 at 08:32:12 AM EST


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